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| Interview of Dr. Giovanni de Martis with
Dr. Matthias Schroeder, the author of the new book
"Deutschbaltische SS-Fuehrer und Andrej Vlasov 1942-1945. Erhard
Kroeger, Friedrich Buchardt und die 'Russische Befreiungsarmee' 1942-1945",
published by Schoeningh Verlag Paderborn, 2001. |
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| De Martis:
In your work "Baltic-German SS-Officers and General Andrej
Vlasov 1942-1945" - Erhard Kroeger, Friedrich Buchardt and the
Russian Liberation Army", you have investigated two SS-Officers who
in the previous years were commanders of Einsatzgruppen or Einsatzkommando
in Russia. What kind of men Kroeger and Buchardt have been? |
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| Schroeder: Both were Members of a young generation, born 1905-1910, and were interested in nationalsocialist political ideas since their time at university in the 1920ies. They studied Law, were highly intellectual and interested in a political career. As Baltic-German living in Latvia they were influenced by Antikommunism. Kroeger and Buchardt wanted to combine political and "practical" work. The radical SS gave them the Chance to be "political soldiers" and to fight a "crusade" against russian bolschewism". | Matthias Schroeder, Deutschbaltische
SS-Fuehrer und Andrej Vlasov 1942-1945. Erhard Kroeger, Friedrich Buchardt
und die "Russische Befreiungsarmee" 1942-1945, Schoeningh Verlag Paderborn 2001, ISBN 3-506-77520-0, 256 pages / 10 pictures, Price 30,60 Euro Information & Order: www.schoeningh.de |
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| In your studies we can read that the two SS-Officiers after 1945 have worked as informal "Eastern Specialists" for american security services like the CIA. Is this the reason why Kroeger was put on trial only in 1969 and Buchardt never? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Unfortunately not all files are published and it is still
not possible to analyse the full cooperation between angloamerican Intelligence
Services and nationalsocialist war criminals after 1945. Buchardt
worked for a british intelligence service untill 1947. A report of the
american CIC from 1950 tells that Buchardt worked for the british security
service "thereby escaping punishment for his crimes"!
Buchardt changed to work for an US Intelligence Service after 1947. The
same report emphasizes that Buchardt is under protecting power of US Intelligence
Service. The reporting agent is afraid of german justice investigating
against Buchardt! It seems possible that Buchardt was never put on trial
because of his work for angloamerican Intelligence Services. Erhard Kroeger
lived incognito in Bavaria untill 1954 and than in Tuebingen. 1962 Kroeger
escaped to Bologna (Italy) because German justice wanted to arrest him.
Three Years Kroeger lived in Bologna but the Italian Court refused handing
over Kroeger to Germany. 1965 Kroeger was arrested in Switzerland and
put on trial. |
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| From January 1943 to March 1944 Buchardt
served as commander of Einsatzkommando 9. Did You find evidence
of Buchardts involvment in the "final solution" in Russia? |
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| In a letter of 1969 Buchardt wrote that he had known that a political career in the SS would not be possible without having served at the "front". He had accepted the physical elimination of jews and political enemies as part of the nationalsocialist Idea. 1941 Buchardt was member of the Einsatzkommando 7c "Vorkommando Moskau" (Frontcommando Moskau). He was liaison officer between Arthur Nebe and Franz Alfred Six and worked in the SD-Headquarter. That's why he must have heard about liquidations of jews. From January 1942 untill March 1943 Buchardt was Chief of SD in Lodz when the liquidation of the Ghetto happened. From February/March 1943 untill the beginning of 1944 Buchardt was commander of Einsatzkommando 9 and part of Einsatzgruppe B in Vitebsk. His official order mentioned his responsibility for "Advicement of commanders at Kollektivmassnahmen". You can find much more incidents and detailled information in the biographical chapter in my book. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Why you have appointed your interest on the history of Andrej Vlasov and his "Russian Liberation Army", recruited by the SS among russian war prisoners? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| There is much information about the interest of the Wehrmacht
in using volunteers like General Vlasov in the army but there was nearly
no evidence of the existance of a baltic german group of SS-Officers who
wanted to use Vlasov and a "Russian Liberation Army" against
Stalin. There was a political debate in the SS about Eastern Politics
and one party of this discussion was a small group of Baltic-Germans around
Erhard Kroeger and Friedrich Buchardt. 1944/45 Kroeger worked in the SS-Hauptamt
and Buchardt in the Reichssicherheitshauptamt, both had central positions.
So the SS was not a political monolith. That's new and it was interesting
to analyse this baltic-german concept of Eastern Policy. |
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| Do you have in progress another work or historical project? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| I do research for two biographical studies about Gunter d'Alquen, Chief of propaganda of the SS, and about General Ernst Koestring, General of the Volunteers in the Wehrmacht. Unfortunately I don't have a position at University or an Institute. I work as freelancer. It is not very easy to find a job at University in Germany. That makes the financiation of my work very complicated. | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Biography of Dr. Matthias Schroeder | ![]() |
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